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David Icke has nothing to say about the Nazi 'human gas chambers'.
A large number of 'alternative' sites have published articles exposing this, history's greatest lie, as a fraudulent hoax. The science(and much more besides), in my opinion, proves it.
But David doesn't go there.
Thus, while naming Rothschild Zionism as mankind's greatest enemy he refuses to attack the lie that gives "Rothschild Zionism" its great spiritual power over the mind of man.
Furthermore his attacks on the Catholic Church, traditionally Orthodox Judaism's (and therefore Zionism's) greatest foe, are continual and very violent. For example.
Now I don't really disagree about the Vatican. Benedict XVIth did more to protect paedophiles than any living person. The Vatican has, since, 1958, been occupied territory. The fact that Freemasonry was declared compatible with Catholicism in 1983 and that the RC Church declared peace (a very one-sided peace, by the way) with Orthodox Jewry in 1962 (Nostra Aetate) is all the proof any serious Christian thinker requires to recognise that Roman Catholicism, at the top, is now (like everywhere and everything else) controlled by de-factoTalmudists.
However, the effect of vilifying Christian Churches without providing any kind of historical context or balance is, on the uninformed mind, like screaming to them from the rooftops that
CHRISTIANITY IS EVIL.
Whereas Christianity to most Christians, myself included, is a call to spiritual perfection:
"Thou shalt be perfect as thy Father in heaven."
" Love your enemies."
"Turn the other cheek."
"You must overcome evil with good."
Christ was a man who not only taught spiritual perfection but also lived up to His principles to the point of sacrificing everything.
So we are to look at the behaviour of a corrupt power grid, a nest of traitors to their own cause and draw conclusions about Christianity from this, rather than from Christ Himself?
Even if you cannot believe that Christ ever existed why, Mr. Icke, but why, would you wish to trash such idealism even if it were only a story for humanity at large to take to heart?
You do know, don't you that in (let us call it, for your purposes) the story of Christ....... that Christ's enemies, that he drove from the temple and charged as being "of Satan", were the bankers and supremacist Jews (i.e. Zionists) of His day? i.e. The 'Rothschild Zionists' of His day.
He got there before you, Mr Icke.
It really is baffling that you should choose Him, Christ, for an enemy.
You attack your enemy's enemy.
THIS IS EXACTLY AS ZIONISTS, WHO CORRECTLY PERCEIVE CHRISTIANITY AS THEIR ONLY TRUE SPIRITUAL ENEMY AND AS THE ONLY REAL THREAT AGAINST THEIR SUPREMACIST PROJECT, WOULD HAVE IT. (See Protocol 14 here)
Come to mention it, you attack Christianity but have nothing to say about a Orthodox Judaism, a religion that is racist and supremacist to it's very core.
Nor have you a word to offer on 'The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion', the widely accessible and obviously genuine (written by a genius [or two], declared 'fake'[ho, ho, ho] by the Zio-press) plan of action of the Rothschild Zionists.
All this makes no sense at all, Mr Icke.
So, here is a fair question that I hope will be widely broadcast:
DAVID ICKE.
ARE YOU A ZIONIST STOOGE?
ARE YOU WARRING FOR AN ENEMY YOU CLAIM TO OPPOSE?
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MICHAEL HASTINGS TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PENTAGON GENERALS
14 minutes ago
I have long pondered the same question. Like you, I am frustrated that Icke produces much good work, yet refuses to address the most glaringly obvious 'elephant in the living room' of all - the Holyhoax. Is he a shill? His close collaboration with the arch-Zionist, Alex Jones, does not bode well for the chances of him not also being one.
ReplyDeletehttp://newsfromatlantis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/david-icke-closet-internationalist.html
http://alexjonesisazionistshill.blogspot.com
Perhaps, but at least as likely is the fact that Icke's publications and videos are everywhere and in denying the gas chambers and apply rational forensics to the hysterically fictionalized narrative, he could be subjected to the same calumny, false prosecution and imprisonment as befell Ernest Zundel and his attorney.
DeleteUntil the state madness stops regarding the imposition of actual forensics to establish reality, telling the truth about holocaustianity is essentially an errand which results in something akin to the Spanish inquisition. Just ask Nick Kollerstrom.
Of course, much is just so much bollocks, but the state imposes severe penalties for discussing the truth. To wit, insider 911 eyewitnesses often lose their lives if they speak up.
Icke is a New Ager, he has familiar spirits, he calls "The Guys". He has communed with Spirits under ayahuasca.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he's inherently evil, deluded perhaps. He does carry information, but as you noticed it may be spoilt with the lie.
"Shape-shifting lizards and snakes" is a close enough description for ruling-class talmudic jews,popes,cardinals,and white [and black/mulatto] sell-outs for me.
ReplyDeleteJust substitute "jews and sell-outs" when you come across "shape-shifting lizards and snakes" and David Icke makes sense.
I think his job -- his real goal -- is to immobilize us. If lizards and snakes rule over us,then really, there's not much we can do to change anything for the better, especially as the lizards and snakes come from another dimension, and have super-natural, god-like powers.
His job is to immobilize us so as to keep the status-quo just the way it is, thank you very much : "We" explained it to you, it's all you need to know, there's nothing you can do about it anyhow, you're now dismissed, commoners.
Icke reeks of Tavistock to me. Joe
I suspect you're right. However, would he recognise a 'good Guy' if he saw one?
ReplyDeleteApart from the one in the mirror, that is?
Critical points made with few words. Catholics have plenty of skeletons in the closet, but no religion is opposed to Jesus Christ like that of Judaism. What is most interesting as that it is Judaism that is even more satanic than any "overt" form of Satanism. I've written about this in various points in my own blog.
ReplyDeleteA good post on Zionism is here:
http://survivebeyondearth.blogspot.com/2013/01/why-discussion-of-zionism-is-so.html
And my comparison of "overt" Satanism and Judaism is here:
http://survivebeyondearth.blogspot.com/2012/12/satanic-thrash-metal-band-slayer.html
-Jason
@ No One To Vote For
ReplyDeleteYou're correct that Icke doesn't give "historical context" when criticizing the Vatican. He fails to mention the jew communists & freemasons infiltrated the Catholic seminaries with homosexuals during the 1930's in order to usurp The Church from within. It was a planned assault.
Icke attacks The Church real hard, while leaving the impression Catholicism is all about evil & pedophilia and Nothing Else. Unfortunately,the novus ordo church is evil, but Icke leaves the readers with the impression the evil is intrinsic to The Catholic Faith itself. Doesn't mention the horrific assault on the Church by the jews/freemasons throughout the 20th century [longer really].
I'll take Michael Hoffman over David Icke any day.
The Vatican was always corrupt. The Vatican was always a nexus of power in Europe, so there was always intrigue and corruption. It's human nature.
The corruption today, however, is even worse than in the days of Luther. The Vatican is now a colony of Israel/Intl.Communist Party. Icke fails to mention the jew role in the novus ordo church.
The pre-Vatican 2 Church, for all it's corruption, still placed emphasis on Christ & on family life. The post- Vatican 2 "conciliar" Church disdains and rejects both Christ & Family. To my mind, they both go together.
I'm still waiting for Icke to uncover the evil that emanates out of Williamsburg, Brooklyn[or Chicago] -- one of the main headquarters of the jew gangsters in the US.
He's very silent about the role of the jews in the West. If one read Icke only, and didn't know better, one would never know jews even exist -- let alone the talmud, the noahide laws,etc..
I do think he would "recognize a good guy if he saw one", I just don't think he'd bother to tell us about the good guy : That's not his mission. His mission, first and foremost, is to deflect us away from the jewish role in the destruction of the West, and leave us spiritually/intellectually immobilized in the face of "shape-shifting lizards" from another dimension. Your average human -- such as myself -- has no idea how to go up against shape-shifting lizards from another dimension : Very Rod Steiger,"The Twilight Zone".
Would be nice if Icke called the jews away from their talmud & noahide laws, but he's silent about that ; Yet,Icke is not the least bit hesitant to call Catholics [ I'm a "cradle" Catholic myself] away from The Faith.
Google : "Vatican Threatened With Nuclear Attack During 1958 Papal Conclave"
I can't prove it, but I think Icke comes out of Tavistock. I'll re-consider my position when Icke starts calling the jews away from their talmud like he calls the Catholics [such as myself] away from The Faith. Icke has yet to "deconstruct" the talmud for us, as he "deconstructs" Christianity. Joe
Why do we feel we need to vote for anyone? Have we been so brain washed we believe we need someone to rule over us? This is like paying someone to tell us how stupid we are.
ReplyDeleteOr going to church because we feel the need to pay someone tell us how rotten we are. When will people figure out they can control their own lives and for free? When will people learn the difference between faith and religion? Whenever they dedide to rebel against Satanic control, evidently..
I agree that Icke is probably a paid shill whose job is to divert attention away from the Jewish angle. He wouldn't get his books published or so much mainstream media promotion if he was telling the full truth. Of course, he has some good information, so does Alex Jones. That's how shills operate otherwise noone would pay them any attention.
ReplyDeleteIcke is playing the system,he has found an easy way to make money and gain popularity.Nothing in his books is original work of his own,simply a compilation of others,which in itself would not be a problem if he just said so instead of saying 'I have been researching for 25 years...'etc... He knows to just once attack the jews would be the end of his career in publishing and his talks would be banned. As for shape shifters,lizards and the Royal family,he also knows no serious person so accused would ever take legal proceedings against Icke as it would be laughed out of court,the Royals for example never stoop so low as to initiate a court case over childish allegations.His books are self repetitive but well marketed. His fondness of Alex Jones simply means they are two of the same,as is Mike Adams/Natural Health.
ReplyDeleteTake him lightly,read his books if you must but remember he has simply found an easy market to exploit.
ReplyDeleteThe Vatican has been outright owned by Jewry not since 1958, but at least since the Marano Ignatius of Loyola opened up the Jesuit's shop, who have since become one of the key Money Power enforcers. Not in the least because they provided the rationales to end Usury prohibition. Their role in the build up of Libertarianism as the right side of the dialectic with Marxism at the left is also notable, as documented by Memehunter at Real Currencies.
Worse: there are actual reasons to believe the Catholic Church was really a Sanhedrin reaction to Christianity proper. There are two reasons for this.
First:
The Vatican's institutional nature is Satanic. Their implicit and for a very long time practically enforced dogma that the Church is needed to get to Christ, let alone that we will be with Christ when we are dead, which is an utterly Satanic untruth of the worst and most blatant kind, was there from the beginning. Also, they horribly redacted the Bible in the first 4 centuries, before Nicea came to the much diluted version of today.
However, it was a damage control operation and the damage to the Money Power was immense. They had to submit to Usury prohibition, which ended their rule over money and the economy, which is their main domination. It took them until the end of the Middle Ages to restore that domination.
Also, while denying the reality of the living Christ (see below), they had to admit that God and Christ were real and the Vatican has promoted both (ever more willy/nilly) ever since.
Second, and even more importantly:
Jesus never wanted a 'church'. 'My church is where more than three gather in My name' says He. This has nothing to do with buildings and institutions. The early Christians around the Mediterranean worshiped together in small groups at home.
The key issue, as I have come to see it, is this. There is a clear esoteric, real, meaning to 'be in My Name'. It means not to say: 'we come here in the name of Jesus'. That means next to nothing.
Christ is the Word. We are all in Christ. But we are not aware, because we are obsessed with self, which is everything that holds our attention, which we identify with.
To be in His Name means to be aware of His Presence, to sense it and identify ever more with it.
A very practical way to do this, is to lie or sit down and to relax the body. For instance with autogenic training, but there are many methods. When you relax (which must be learned if you have not done this consciously) you can feel how your muscles seem to dissolve into a void. It's the same void, emptiness we experience in meditation, this spaciousness that seems to pervade everything.
The key now is, to, when relaxing, start to understand and really profoundly accept that YOU ARE RELAXING INTO THE WORD HIMSELF!
We can completely relax in Christ. All our bodies, also our emotional body, our mental body and our awareness. This is where we are truly in His Name. When we practice this, all the while crucifying self (taking away our attention from matter and to Spirit), we become better and quickly we can be in His Name during our daily life.
This is the Mystery. This is Christianity proper.
This is the real enemy of the Sanhedrin, because being in His Name and doing His will, armed with Christ's armour, most importantly the Shield of Faith, is invincibility. It overcomes always. It already overcame. If you end self and let Christ work through you, that is what defeats Satan, also in the world.
This our challenge, no, our Salvation. This is Grace. The New Covenant. To live in His Name.
Where three of us gather, there is His Church.
So pray, praise, meditate, contemplate and shed all fear. Let all fear go in the ever growing acceptance of the Truth: the Son is with us and the only thing stopping Him is ourselves. Faith moves mountains.
And never forget, should I have the Faith to move mountains, without Charity it means nothing.
Icke certainly is a gatekeeper and you're absolutely right his attacks on Christ basically tell all.
ReplyDeleteThat history is very interesting. The problem I had with the Catholic Church was the way they placed themselves between the individual and Jesus. Most priests I knew were genuine and good men though. They all said ( when pressed) that when you get down to it your own conscience is your most trustworthy guide whatever we tell you.
ReplyDeleteI agree that 'Churches'(i.e. hierarchies) have proved themselves an enemy of true spirituality. When I say this to most Catholics and other Christians they look at you as if you're mad. We must have 'authority'. Escaping ones conditioning and discerning true principle is a tough call and a lifetime's work.
Thank you for your comments Anthony. Brilliant and to the point, as always.
David Icke is a paranoid schitzophrenic and an extreme bore and anyone who gives him the time of day deserves to be led up the garden path. Just ignore him.
ReplyDeleteHi Kevin,
ReplyDeleteThis is a great video on David Icke that is worth checking out.
http://youtu.be/FbEgvx1qelw
According to science/physics, the universe has memory & everything in the universe has memory & nothing is ever forgotten.
ReplyDeleteStephen Hawking, theory The Hawking Paradox - he put forward that in certain situations the universe can forget & the scientific community rejected it.
Therefore - where did we get the idea that god beings exist ?
Maybe because the did exist - scientific proof of god.
Jesus Christ is the most important man that has ever walked this earth & there is no getting around that fact.
And the whole world would agree with this.
Man has hijacked God & Jesus & the whole shebang & for power, control over his fellow man, position, wealth & lifestyle.
I watched Xmas Mass at the Vatican, on TV. How wondrous & lavish & splendid & expensive.
And we would want God to see how good we are & clever & the amazing things that we can do - for we are created in the image of God.
And outside the Vatican there is someone looking in a garbage can for food.
Somehow I don't think this is what God had in mind.
Somehow we have got it horribly wrong.
Thank you for even reading them Kev, I don't want to litter your pages, they're on my mind, but they're hardly 'scientific' thoughts.
ReplyDelete'for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, the powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places'.
Many of the people in the hierarchy are good men and women. The higher up you go, the nastier they get, it's the same everywhere, also in the Vatican.
But all the answers are within. That is the great promise, the great joy!
All the best, as always.
@ Anthony and others
ReplyDeletePOINT 1
It is blatantly untrue that we are all in Christ.
"Many are called FEW are chosen"
"Narrow or straight (tough and difficult) is the gate or path and FEW there be that find it."
"Wide is the path to destruction (spiritual ruin - RELIGION) and MANY there be that find it."
No one can meditate themselves into a calling, we have to be called into a calling and no man can come to Yashua Anointed (Jesus Christ) unless The Father CALLS them first and Yashua Anointed via The Holy Scriptures is VERY CLEAR on this point. Please note this, too, no religion is involved in this process, for it can happen anytime and anywhere and very often when we are going through a crisis in our lives.
John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65 (KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Now meditate on The Truth of these Scriptures.
POINT 2
Goodness cannot save a man. When man fell in the Garden he acquired the knowledge of GOOD and evil and he resides under that all enveloping umbrella, for want of a better word. This means he can be the kindest man living doing all manner of good works, but if he is not called of the Father to The Son, he is still lost and unsaved. Will his life of good works help him in the resurrection? All depends what his motivations were.
POINT 3
David Icke like Alex Jones is a Jesuit gate keeper and any attacks on Rome are just a smoke screen. Remember all the publicity his papist buddy Wogan gave him? Standard Jesuit training can even involve them betraying each other if it advances the cause and by hiding their overall deceptions.
Likewise the "JEWS versus ROME scam" is just an outward expression of their love/hate relationship, both knowing that they cannot succeed without each other. Never forget they were both necessaary in order for Yashua Anointed to be crucified. The JEWS on their own did not have the authority nor the jurisdiction to order the crucifixion.
Hi Unknown,
ReplyDeleteIt's not a w(W?)ord game.
You're right: only the elect will be free in this particular cycle of creation.
It is not true that we can chose to be His, He chooses us.
Still: we are all in Christ, as Christ is the Word, pervading the Entire Universe and maintaining it.
Self (only a capital because it is the first word in the sentence) blocks us from experiencing it, so we don't notice. This is indeed by God's command. His Will.
Just remember how the Christ explained to the Two Listeners time and again that He is continuously knocking on the closed doors of all those lonely hearts.
Think of how the Force pervades everything to sustain Life.
We cannot NOT be in Christ, we can only live in artificial isolation.
It's clear from my comment I fully agree it has nothing to do with 'religion'.
@ Point 3:
I don't agree. The Vatican was a damage control operation and while owned by the Money Power was an annoying stumbling block because of the Usury issue and the even more important factor that they had to acknowledge Christ, albeit a dead Christ.
They will happy to do away with it, it is necessary for their One World Religion.
Think of the Vatican as the Federal Reserve Bank: a once useful tool which is end of life.
What happened to 'leaderless' revolution? David Icke's spiritual experiences make him out as a fake. Some otherwise good work he did, he put blots on e.g reptilian royalty and his view of what the moon is. Shape-shifters do exist but they are not necessarily native to the Elite class. His criticisms of Christianity are deserved though they may not be the most profound criticisms leveled against that religion. Which Christ was he critical of? The Christ constructed by the presbyters who wrote the Bible can be criticised. He can be praised too! The Christ revealed by the Essene Gospel of Peace Book 1 was bang on target with the mechanism of salvation by beating satan. I think that THE BIBLE FRAUD by Tony Bushby 'outed' any legitimacy that the Bible may have had.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of religion do you think that the corrupt Papacy could evolve over the centuries? What kind of 'salvation' can you get after the body dies? Religions and Churches train priestcraft in theology and the art of being priests, then send them out to tell people about God and salvation. Wouldn't it be more to the point if priestcraft sought and found God first, then told people about how to get to him? Christianity, like other religions, is part of the mechanism of control over the masses. The world does not get 'nastier' on the Elite end of things. The masses are limited by wealth, in the degree of evil that they can perpetrate and maintain. The masses are clones of the Elites, and help them enhance this satanic empire. The masses are not pure or angelic, as many aver. Good or intelligent people are a distinct grouping from the 'masses'. The masses hate that group and destroy them, just like the Elites do in this satanic civilization. Soul and 'goodness' are the enemies of both Elites and Masses. They are both darkside! I don't know who originated the idea that masses are pure and innocent victims of Elite Conspiracy. The masses have their own conspiracy going, and are too busy with it to notice the evidence of Eugenics all around them! 'Saving the masses' might be a popular card played by bloggers. That doing, however, is best left to the masses themselves. Bloggers should be trying to save themselves. Wouldn't like you guys to be shot in the back! I write widely on the ELITES and the MASSES, including a post on THE DECEPTIONS IN RELIGION in my blog FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THE DARK SIDE....http://practicalsoulbuilding.blogspot.com/
Here's two articles that critique Tony Bushby's "Bible Fraud".
ReplyDeletehttp://www.tektonics.org/af/bushby01.html
http://thedevineevidence.com/skeptic_bible_fraud.html
I have looked at some of the rebuttals of the ideas presented by Bushby in the 'Bible fraud'. I agree with Bushby that the Bible, in all its versions, editions and translations, is not the inspired word of God, Christ or his disciples. There is the fact of the Bible being compiled almost 300 years after Christ allegedly expired. Even with our advanced media, we see current news is fabricated, distorted and selectively reported. Reportage would have been even more inaccurate about 1700 years ago. Then Bushby points out how the current editions of the Bible depart radically from the initial versions. We have had the inclusion and dumping of gospels and books from the bible, at the whim and fancy of the Papacy. I don't buy Bushby's composite of Christ, created from Judas Khrestus and Rabbi Jesus. The Essene Gospel of Peace Bk 1 dates back to the 1st century, and in it, Christ is teaching the people how to clean satan out of their bodies. This is what following Christ is about.
DeleteWhile Bushby's sources have been attacked, his attackers cannot present a Bible that is consistent in its content, to prove their point. The only reason why there are some noteworthy bits of advice in the Bible is that among the Presbyters who compiled the Bible, were a few good men!
The majority of Bushby's evidence is based on speculation, linguistic games, bogus references, and terribly misquoted sources. Bushby has not provided any kind of sound proof that should cause us to dismiss known history and accept his claims. A pope never admitted to Christ being a fable, the Jesus twins never existed, and Christianity was not based on pagan myths. I can only conclude that Mr Bushby has not proved his case - and it is his to prove - , therefore the best place in which to file his tome is the nearest waste-paper basket.
DeleteGoogle : "The Light of Christ in The Vedas"
ReplyDeleteBy-pass the jew/christian hegelian dialectic. A dialectic which only strenthens the talmudic rabbis and the sell-outs to the money-changers and pharisees. The Catholic Church and the Protestant churches are chock full of sell-outs.
And yes, the Vatican was a device of the sanhedrin from the very first day the Catholic Church opened for business.
After Vat2, the devout Catholics -- those Catholics who truly had The Faith in their hearts - were pushed aside big-time. The devout Catholics in the church always had it difficult, still there was room for them and they were accorded respect by the great majority of Catholics ; They had some say in church affairs, at least. After Vat2, the devout Catholics were treated as enemies. That was my experience.
My maternal grandmother went to Mass every day. She, and other devout Catholics like her, especially the nuns & the lowly parish priests, were treated like garbage after Vat2.
Here and there - during the 1960's/1970's - some devout priests were even murdered by communists in the church pretending to be Catholics [ read: jews pretending to be Catholics].
The devout Catholics went to Mass with Gratitude in their hearts for the Gift of Salvation, the Gift of Life, and The Gift of Family ; It was always a simple faith borne from Gratitude.
Icke couldn't care less about this aspect of Catholicism, and he doesn't seem the least bit upset that the nobler and finer aspects of Catholicism has been greatly stomped on by the novus ordo church.
Icke never mentions all the Catholic churches that were torched and arsoned in the late 1960's/early 70's in America's urban areas. Many churches in the Bronx [ my hometown], for example, were burned to the ground by arsonists [read : satanists/ read : jew communists]. Very few people know about that. Never made the mainstream news. Icke is never going to tell us either; Nor is he ever going to tell us about the devout priests who were murdered following on the heels of Vat2.
The Light of Christ existed before the talmud, before the sanhedrin, before the vatican - pre & post vat2 -- before the federal reserve act and 501c3, and before the tower of babel.
The Light of Christ in The Vedas.
From : Joe
@ Anthony
ReplyDelete"Still: we are all in Christ, as Christ is the Word, pervading the Entire Universe and maintaining it."
No one can be in Christ unless he is called of The Father and Baptised with water and The Holy Spirit so we are NOT ALL IN CHRIST. All mankind will be saved (not all HU-mankind), but not in this age.
@ Joe
Catholics and Protestants are not divided, they are unified by the pagan trinity and a devout Catholic is a devout Catholic, nothing else. Catholics are not Christians, if they were they would make sure they were known as such, but they don't, they want to be known primarily as Catholics and no man or woman can serve two masters. Catholicism is a religion and Judaism is a religion. Following Yashua Anointed (Jesus Christ) The Way is not a religion.
@ the others
The Holy Scriptures even though corrupted by people like Jerome circa 390 AD can only be interpreted by those called and Born of God through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, not by anyone else. The intellect of man (a currency or form of riches) alone is worse than useless. The Roman Cult was founded on such people, erroneously called the 'church fathers', who were intellectual students of the Canaanite Jew Philo based in Alexandria. Philo, from whence we get the word philosophy, was not a follower of Yashua Anointed. Some of these Philo students had contact with the apostle John and the first century church, but they only wanted to spy out The Church to garner info for their satanic counterfeit religion.
Re Bushby if we put our heads in the garbage bin we can only get sick.
@ Unknown
ReplyDeleteI have a funny notion that Jesus Christ Anointed likes The Truth. The truth is : David Icke leaves out alot historical information when he talks about the Catholic Church. Whatever one thinks of the Catholic Church as a spiritual entity is besides the point : We're talking history, not spirituality.
The Church played a huge role in the history of the West, whether anyone likes it or not. As a student of history, I like as many historical facts as possible. Icke is very selective in parcelling out the facts of history concerning the Catholic Church.
As he abridges the history he does give us, he simultaneously talks about the New Age religion/spirituality. I have no problem studying about what New Agers think. There're some things about the New Age thinking I agree with -- some of it resonates with me. I take no issue with that.
I don't know if Icke follows "The Way" you mention ; If he does, I have no issue with that ; If not, I have no issue with that either. In mixing up history and spiritual matters, Icke clouds the issue as to what really happened in the Vatican 2 Church : I have a problem with that.
I take issue with how he parcels out the facts in a selective way -- how he abridges the history of the Church -- in a manner I find didactic and overbearing. Icke tries to lead his readers to pre-set conclusions. As a student of history, I resent that. Just give me the facts, and I'll come to my own conclusions.
As all of our history books are abridged, and David Icke is supposedly telling us the truth we don't read in the history books, one would think such a spritually advanced soul as Icke would be more forthcoming as to the whole truth.
Yet this advanced soul, David Icke, never comes around to shedding Light on the talmud, on the role of the jew communists in the church and the jew role in so much of the corruption emanating from the Vatican.
Icke only points his finger at one side of the hegelian dialect. He points his finger at the corrupt Catholics -- while leaving out the story of the devout Catholics who were opposed to the corruption and tried to stop it -- and some of them were murdered for it.
He never points his fingers at the other side of the dialect -- the jews -- the very ones who murdered the Catholics who tried to stop the corruption.
I have a funny notion Yashua the Anointed is not so dismissive and disdainful of devout Catholics, as the devout Catholics were the very ones in the Church trying to stop the corruption, trying to walk in His Light as best as they could.
As the Church plays a big role in the West, one would think an advanced soul like Icke would appreciate the efforts of devout Catholics in trying to stop corruption in this Church that plays such a big role, yet Icke seems happy the devout Catholics were defeated.
How happy Icke is to live in this new world of New Age seekers "doing your own thing" with no organization or powerful force to stop the jew communist agenda. The Catholic Church -- for all of her faults -- was one of two organizations standing in the way of the communist jew agenda. She's come to heel.
The other organization -- the government of the United States with her Constitution -- is coming to heel to the jew commies as I type this.
Yet, Icke never mentions the jew communists and the jew role in bringing the two major organizations in the world to heel.
We're to see ourselves as individuals "doing our own thing", disdaining our own heritage, culture, history, and religious/spiritual inheritance, while the jews work as a collective to bring about a communist gulag state writ-large across the West.
Icke works for the jews. Joe
I mentioned in an above post I think the jew/christian set-up in the West is a hegelian dialect. Icke only points to one side of the hegelian dialect, and never seems to get around to mention the other side of the hegelian dialect : the jews and their talmud.
Excuse that paragraph way down on the bottom. I thought I had deleted that before shooting off my comment. My cursor was jumping all around my computer screen -- I don't know why.
ReplyDeleteIt was originally in the body of the comment. My cursor was jumping around as I edited my comment.I thought I had deleted it. I edited the comment as I have a tendency to write long posts.
Back to Icke : Michael Hoffman is a good source to learn about the history of the Vatican for any readers interested in the topic. Hoffman is alot more balanced and objective in detailing church history.
Icke is more of a proselytiser for the New Age religion than an historian -- as an historian, Icke greatly abridges the facts. In abridging the facts, he's no different than the court historians who write for the mainstream Madison Ave publishing houses.
Speaking of hegelian dialectics, the court historians for the Madison Ave publishing houses, and David Icke, are two sides of the same coin : And the coin is owned by the jew bankers. Neither the court historians nor David Icke mention the influence and the role of world jewry in the history of the West. Joe
I take what I find wheresoever I find it. If I want a berry I pluck it from the branch I don't pull up the whole bush. I don't know all about everything and I don't expect anyone else to.People have different names for the same things anyway.Icke had a video about diamonds on Sunday in the news section it was very interesting,forget the rest.I study the research not the conclusions
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ReplyDelete"I have a funny notion that Jesus Christ Anointed likes The Truth."
That's because Yashua Anointed (The Lord Jesus Christ) IS The Truth - that is one of His Titles as are these: The Way, The Light, The Word, The I am and The Son of Man (Adam). He is the source of Truth and there is no other, hence He said: "The Truth shall set you free."
"The truth is : David Icke leaves out alot historical information when he talks about the Catholic Church. Whatever one thinks of the Catholic Church as a spiritual entity is besides the point : We're talking history, not spirituality."
Of course he will leave out a lot of historical information, for he is a purveyor of half-truths and, as the old Jewish proverb goes: "A half-truth is a whole lie."
This whole issue is about spirituality - evil spirits versus The Holy Spirit. The Spirit world is the only reality. Our physical world is purely temporary and will pass like a fading flower. However, Icke is spiritually switched on and hears evil spirits. These spirits speak to him and he seeks out shamans who are just mediums or channelers for evil spirits - as are witch doctors. Many in the so called 'truth movement' are deceived in this way, including New Agers who actively seek and promote a counterfeit spirituality.
In turn, Icke will not attack the Roman Catholic cult because the same spirits rule that, so this fits in nicely with him as a Jesuit gatekeeper, as I have already stated elsewhwere.
Unknowing
ReplyDeleteIcke routinely attacks the "Roman Catholic cult" (sic); that's the premise of Kev's article. Ah, but I'm forgetting, that's all just a "smokescreen" isn't it.
@ Mary C
ReplyDeleteI don't know that he does routinely attack The Roman Catholic Cult. Whenever I hear him it's Rothschilds this and Rothschilds that or its Zionists this and Zionists that or its Nazis this or its Nazis that. Very seldom, if at all, do I hear Jesuit this and Jesuit that or Bolshevik Marxist this or Bolshevik Marxist that.
For me he's all about creating confusion and of course as you accurately stated 'smokescreens'
Well, I can assure you Icke DOES constantly attack Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. And I didn't use the expression smokescreens, you'll notice that I put the word in quotations because I was using your expression in an ironical manner.
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ReplyDeleteYou really do need to learn about the money making scam that is Roman Catholicism and then you will stop pathetically trying to defend the indefensible. You will note that I have not even mentioned paedophilia which is endemic within that organisation - those found out being the tip of the iceberg.
I have already explained why Icke, as a Jesuit, occasionally attacks Rome, and as you have mentioned it, yes, he does more regularly attack Christianity, but in his ignorance doesn't know what real Christianity is which, in turn, is just more evidence that he is a Jesuit.
Rememmber, too, that in that capapcity, along with Alex Jones, he works for The Black Pope, not the front man or PR man, The White Pope.
Unknown
DeleteYou are no different than that idiot Eric Jon Phelps of "Vatican Assassins" infamy. The only difference between the two of you, is that whereas he hates Catholics and worships the Jews, you hate Catholics and worship yourself.
You haven't mentioned paedophilia? How restrained of you. What the Jewish mainstream media calls "paedophilia" is actually homosexuality as most of the victims were teenage boys.
But the media won't tell you that because they are pushing a homosexual agenda. After Vatican II the Church became very liberal and allowed sodomites to be ordained. I notice, though, that you will believe the Jewish media when it trashes the Catholic Church. There's more paedophilia among teachers, protestant sects and Orthodox rabbis than among Catholic priests.
If Icke doesn't bang on about Jesuits and Black popes to the extent that you and Phelps do, it will be because he needs to retain SOME credibility. He doesn't want to appear as a total idiot.
@ MaryC
DeleteAs usual you are wrong. Phelps is a pro-Israel Zionist shill - the classic one dimensional disso as is Craig Oxley, Phelp's mouth piece on the Unhived Mind web page.
I don't hate anyone, but I do hate Roman Catholicism, because I know what it represents.
Take a look at this and then come back with more of your pathetic excuses in defending the indefensible: http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/pope-rent-boys-cia-nazis-mafia.html
As I say, Phelps is just the other side of the coin to yourself, he hates Catholics and worships Jews, you hate Catholics and worship yourself.
DeleteYou don't hate anyone, you say; didn't you say that I lacked the Holy Spirit? didn't you tell Kev that he wasn't a Christian? We both feel the love!
As for Aangirfan, he speaks with a forked tongue; on the one hand presenting himself as this great crusader against sexual abuse, on the other, promoting homosexuality. And thank you for confirming that you also use secular sources for what passes for your knowledge.
Here's a great online book that exposes the roots of British Israelism and how the British Empire never went away but just changed its appearance and is still the evil power that is running the world along with the Zionists. I doubt that you will read it though. I've noticed how you arrogantly disdain to read an article/book or watch a video that is recommended to you as you think you know it all.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/britishisraelhiddenhand10jul05.shtml
Once more you are wrong, I don't do worship - period. Worship is for religious people, I just follow The Way and The Way is Yashua Anointed.
DeleteIf you had The Holy Spirit you would be in agreement with me, but you are not so therefore you must be of another spirit.
I did not say that Kev was not a Christian, what I did say was that Kev could not be a Roman Catholic and a Christian and man cannot serve two masters and sooner or later both he and you will have to make the decision of whether you follow Yashua Anointed (the Lord Jesus Christ) or your meaningless Roman Catholic religion.
As for love, I am loving you by teaching you The Truth, is it my fault that you erroneously interpret The Truth as a negative thing?
I didn't send the Aangirfan link in order to promote him as I am not a fan of his either - he's a Bolshevik Marxist shill, but in that thread there was much truthful info about your satanic cult, just as there is in this link about Jimmy Savile's buddy:
http://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2013/02/cardinal-obrien-resigns-church-in-crisis-2448832.html
The roots of British Israel are primarily in The Holy Scriptures. British from the Hebrew Berith-iysh means Covenant Man. Engl-and from the Hebrew Igl means bullock; England therefore means Bullock-land. Ephraim the younger son of Joseph was the Tribe of Israel with the Bull as its symbol hence we get John Bull. Judah (royalty) had the Lion. The coat of arms has the Lion and The Unicorn and Biblical unicorns are bulls.
I do not know it all, nor do I boast in such, but what I know, I know.
Even if the Brits are the original Hebrews, which I doubt, I don't really see how it is relevant considering that Jesus said that his Kingdom is not of this world and St. Paul confirmed that God has no favourites, but that anyone who does His will is acceptable to Him.
DeleteYou seem to be putting your hope in a carnal, earthly paradise, just like the supremicist Talmudic Jews do. We are now living under the New Covenant in which there is no Jew or Greek. A persons race has no bearing on his value before God.
As to why Icke avoids certain important issues of 'trutherism' I cannot say. It would nice if someone could ask him - he seems like an approachable chap.
ReplyDeleteFor me though, from an Islamic point of view, I think Icke has been contacted by the djinn. The 'plan' of the djinn is to 'leak' information (half-truthes) to David which I think he sincerely believes to pull people into new ageism - an away from God. That's what life is all about folks... Do you follow God or not?
And there's one individual in command of many others that is literally hell-bent to make sure you don't follow God... by any means necessary (granted to him by God). That Icke is somehow isolated from this choice of following God or not simply isn't sustainable. And to believe Satan hasn't thought of this and/or isn't doing it is frankly laughable. At the same time we should constantly be examining our own lives trying to catch the whispers of Satan in our own ears.
The trick is to cherry-pick. Why not? Take the good and leave the bad behind. 'Truthers' have a massive problem in dealing with differing opinions in the 'truther movement'. Great news for those that believe in divide and conquer.
Muad'dib and Davis Shayler claim to be a prophets yes? (Shayler going a bit further and pulling a 'messiah') both individuals doing something that is akin to blasphemy. But in general, apart from those peculiar J7 folks and their flank-men, people absorb MD and DS's 'good' things wuite well and simply ignore the incorrect 'religious' claims.
The only thing, apart from Ripple Effect, that Maud Dib has right is his knowledge of British Israel. Where he falls down is his blasphemous teaching about The Apostle Paul being a false messenger.
DeleteShayler was or still is a whack job. LOL
Nearly all the people who've claimed Paul was a false messenger have been Jewish subverter's.
DeleteChristogenea Saturdays, November 3rd, 2012 - Against the Paul-bashers, Part 1
http://christogenea.org/content/christogenea-saturdays-november-3rd-2012-against-paul-bashers-part-1
Chris
Muad'dib and Davis Shayler claim to be a prophets yes? (Shayler going a bit further and pulling a 'messiah') both individuals doing something that is akin to blasphemy.
ReplyDeleteShayler does not even write about Scripture, but Muad'dib, if you can't recognise the teachings, what can I say.
Andrew.
What the hell is wrong with everyone, Icke's this Icke's that, Icke's fake, what i see going on mostly in forums, blogs are whatever, is a fight about who's religion is right or better, and if one says something bad are says NOTHING at all about someone else's belief, their evil or misdirecting people. Whats wrong, can people not think for themselves? I guess not. From the start of reading this article I could tell it's written in a way to justify his/her belief. Come on people see for what it is, religion destroys any hope of peace, specially in the world we live today, it also stops people from living in other parts of the world, it used to dived and rule. Has religion not taught people to except all people? its about time we got over it and brushed it aside so we can start doing something about the problem we are all faced with. I not saying religion is completely bad, i just want to know when its going to be put into practice?
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