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Here is Question 327 from the long-abandoned (Roman Catholic) 'Penny Catechism'.
Which are the four sins crying to heaven for vengeance?
As Catholic schoolchildren, we worked our way through this little book in R. I. (Religious Instruction) lessons back in the early 1960's. As a basis for discussion it had a lot going for it. The book made it very clear what we were expected to think and therefore it was pretty straightforward, even as pre-teens, to formulate questions or challenges to its contents.The four sins crying to heaven for vengeance are:
1. Willful murder (Genesis 4)
2. The sin of Sodom (Genesis 18)
3. Oppression of the poor (Exodus 2)
4. Defrauding labourers of their wages (James 5)
I can remember reading 327, being puzzled by 'No. 2' and having more sense than to ask my rather lovely female teacher what it meant. Here was a sin that was too grim to even describe in plain English.
In Dante's 'Inferno' there was a specific region in the Seventh circle of hell populated by those whose sin was 'violence against nature'. In this place poor Sodomites, Blasphemers and Usurers were left naked on burning sand with fire raining down on them from unnatural clouds.
Gosh.
How the world has changed since the Middle Ages.
How it has changed over the last 50 years.
The Holy Sacrament of Marriage must now embrace sodomy.
Although Mr Cameron reassures us that no religious institution will be forced to carry out same-sex marriages against its will, it is clear that 'Human Rights' legislation will be almost certainly be used, as it has been before, to enforce 'equality' regardless of....etc.
We think we know where this is going Mr Cameron.
THE FAILURE OF THE CHURCHES
The Christian Churches and others are adamantly opposed to the very idea of "Gay" marriage.
However, the people voicing this opposition seem unable to state the obvious and most powerful argument in support of their case, that
Sodomy is, to use an old-fashioned word, sinful.
God is Love. The affirmation embedded in the entire natural order.
The human anus is not a sexual organ. It was designed for something else.
However much homosexuals claim, in the self-serving way they do, that they have "always felt this way", the homosexual impulse remains an obvious 'developmental disorder'. This how it was seen by psychologists for most of the 20th century. This is what it remains.
It may be true that many homosexual individuals can never remember feeling any other way, but it is believed that many, if not most, of our primary psychological characteristics are developed in the first couple of years of life, before we develop memory.
However this, in itself, should be a side-issue.
What has become of a society that is prepared to regard sodomy and normal sexual intercourse as basically "the same thing".
What has become of churches that are only willing to point to gays' inability to reproduce in support of their argument, rather than to restate what collective humanity has asserted from time immemorial, that
SODOMY IS AN UNNATURAL VICE
Can there be any greater evidence than the decision to institutionalise gay marriage that the collective will (if not the entire collective mind) has been taken over by enemies of God?
On such a note of despair can one ask if there is any good to be found in the situation at all?
The Tao states:
"There is far greater wisdom in the movement of the whole pattern than in any attempt to impose one’s own will on events...
Might we happily admit that the acceptance of people with homosexual feelings is a good thing. We cannot condemn the person nor judge. We cannot condemn any individual even on the basis of that person's actions. We can judge the action but not the state of mind, nor the motive of the person.
Nor can we know how we would behave in another's position.
Might this diabolical fiasco help to establish the idea that although it is good to accept the feelings of others, feeling must not be used as the basis for setting principle.
And this is exactly what society has been manipulated by government into doing over a large range of issues. Government presents policies developed by think-tanks that are clearly working in concert with the templates laid out as advice for the elite by The Frankfurt School Psychologists between the 1920's and the 1980's. Their work can be viewed, in my opinion, as a refinement or a supporting text to 'The Protocols of Zion'.
(Study these people to understand how our entire society has been subverted in the interests of rendering us helplessly enslaved by a financial oligarchy. Please do read the linked article above.)
Maybe the Tao is right. When grandiose ambition knows no bounds, collapse is inevitable.
Good will win in the end. Let us hope that we are close to the end of a (necessary?) learning curve.
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I feel bad for you. You are so insecure and confused that you actually think you CHOSE to be straight and that gays CHOOSE to be gay? You're pathetic. Seriously. I didnt have to choose to be straight, I just am. Maybe thats why I dont fear gays like your insecure zealot ass does. More zionist divide and conqeur bullshit. You tool.
ReplyDeleteAaron Russo on the Rockefeller Foundation and 'Feminism'
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpjmvaIgNA
The Frankfurt School
http://72.52.208.92/~gbpprorg/obama/incogman.net-the-frankfurt-school-conspiracy-to-corrupt.pdf
Well, we feel bad for each other, my friend. I do not accept your theology which is, in truth, Frankfurt School Zionism designed to divide, rule and destroy society (whether you know this or not).
ReplyDeleteMarriage has been under attack for decades by the promotion of the 'feminist' and 'gay' agendas. Educate yourself, for God's sake. You are simply ignorant of the history and the planning behind these memes.
Collective Moral Principles have been INVERTED under the leadership of people who wish us nothing other than enslavement under their own authority.
By the way, as is usual, you attack a straw man that is easily kicked to death. I did NOT say people choose their sexuality. I say that one type of sexuality is obviously natural (and, in religious language, God-given), another is not.
We all have imperfect and even antisocial feelings that it is our life's work to cope with. We are here to accept what is but not to serve what is. We are here to learn to serve what is good and this will always involve a degree of suffering and self-sacrifice on our parts.
Grow up.
There is some confusion here. Homosexuality is natural but not normal; ie it is abnormal behaviour, but it occurs as a natural consequence of abnormal foetal development. What is under attack is normality, not nature. Normality is defined by culture. It is our culture which is under attack, not only our mores but also our arts.
ReplyDeleteIf men who are gay do not marry the object of their desire & live happily ever after, then who should they marry ?
ReplyDeleteOne of my daughters ?
You would inflict this misery on my daughters.
She has the opportunity of marrying a man who is truly comfortable with a woman as his life partner.
Because we are open & honest & not confused & can partner up so as to not be alone in life.
There is nothing like a gay son in law - who is by the way, married to your daughter.
One becomes attached to & develops a relationship with, the addition to the family.
Who is secretly miserable & confused & yearning to be himself & with his true love all the while he is married to your daughter.
She has no idea what is wrong & there is the rick/change that he will one day leave & she & their children will be left.
Let the gay men marry whom so ever they want & not my daughters, in the best interests of us all.
I am adding the following comment that was placed by the host of www.thetruthseeker.com, Rixon Stewart, at the end of this article when he posted it on his site:
ReplyDeleteThere is a reason why so many from so many different cultures and religions have forbidden homosexuality, and particularly the attendant act of sodomy. On a more esoteric level, we understand that it triggers a reversal of the circulation of ethereal sustenance within human beings at a subatomic level.
Although most are completely unaware of the connection, this happens in the refined spiritual realms with which we are intimately connected. Despite being unaware of these links, we are nonetheless tied to these realms right down to our most intimate bodily functions through our chakras.
The reversal of the circulation of these life-giving forces opens the way for much darker forces to enter this realm. In effect, it acts as an open invitation to demonic entities; which explains why sodomy has been a central part of so many black magic ceremonies over the centuries.
It also explains why sodomy has been outlawed in so many different cultures and religions across the world throughout history. For the very act can be used as an invitation to diabolical forces to enter this earthly realm.
This has been understood as a fact by wise men and women even in the most primitive cultures.
You think it a coincidence that ancients Chinese Taoists, Muslims and until a few years ago, ordinary Christians spoke out against sodomy?
Of course it isn’t.
At least in the West, our leaders owe their power to the very forces that thrive on sodomy.
All of which may explain why efforts are now underway to make sodomy an acceptable practise and why our political leaders – who are mostly in the pockets of fantastically wealthy demon worshippers – are assisting.
I hear this people have no choice lie all the time, when the fact is all people lust after many things and manifest in the world: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.Pharmacy too.
ReplyDeleteAll people have within them free will to overcome them, it takes will power, and most of all Love (God), not to give in to the body and deceiving thoughts within the mind that test and tempt. Only then will peace be within, and a better world for others, even a chance to see better that what is not of this world. Because as sure as this world (hell), consciousness cannot derive from matter and is not the animal body.
I agree with you on a lot of things, Kevin, and I even agree with you that homosexuality is being used as a weapon to tear at the fabric of society, to make us collectively weak, but on this, and a number of other issues, where we part company is I don't need the church to guide me in my assessment of the issues. Rather, I see the church as a whole other problem of even greater magnitude than the issue of homosexuality that we're discussing here.
ReplyDeleteYes, homosexuals can't reproduce! That's the only argument you need to deflate the notion that homosexuality should be accepted on equal footing as heterosexuality. The minute you bring in scriptural support for your arguments against homosexuality, you lose the debate.
To me, the role the church plays in society is comparable to the role you see the Frankfurt school as playing. Both claim to have the best interests of the people at heart, but in both cases an argument can be made that there is something quite sinister going on behind the scenes.
I hate to break it to you, Kevin, but your catechism is not a good example of the mainstream of European tradition on the subject of same-sex relations. Suggested reading: John Boswell’s Same-Sex Unions in Premodern Europe, with its voluminous documentation, using primary sources, that same-sex unions were a sacrament of both the Eastern Orthodox and the Western churches. Or let's try a completely different angle. Christoph W. Gluck is a favourite composer of mine and Iphigenie en Tauride one of his most outstanding operas. Perhaps the most lyrical passage of that opera is Pylades’ confession of love for his lifelong companion Orestes.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijuOoHt4mcQ
Now Gluck was a happily married heterosexual, but in this case he was true to the spirit of the Greek legend that formed the basis of his libretto. Same-sex relations are an important subcurrent of European culture, not the mainstream, to be sure, but usually considered honourable, particularly at precisely those times, classical antiquity, the Renaissance and Enlightenment, when European culture was at its peak. You are right to the extent that in our days homosexuality has been used as a tool to destabilize society. But homosexuality itself has been degraded, just like heterosexuality, and reduced from a mutually enriching relationship between two adult individuals, to a cesspool of bodily functions and primitive impulses.
Opposite-sex and same-sex relationships have been equally devalued in the culture wars of our time.
Thank you for that.
ReplyDeleteI am not personally interested in intruding in private relationships, homosexual or otherwise. Who knows what anyone gets up to.
However, I do object, strongly, to homosexual unions being included in the concept and institution of marriage. This is the point of the article.
Marriage is rightfully a holy institution, the foundation of society, to which enough damage has already been (deliberately) done.
In his novel Lothair (1870) , speaking of the aims of the Illuminati, Benjamin Disraeli wrote:
ReplyDelete"The foundation of the Christian family is the sacrament of matrimony, the spring of all domestic and public morals. The anti-Christian societies are opposed to the principle of home. When they have destroyed the hearth, the morality of society will perish."